Wednesday, August 26, 2020

Let's Hear from Our Readers

 Good morning, Seekerville.  

As I started to type that, I couldn't help it. My brain burst out with this.


We really are our own wonderful neighborhood here. 


So today I was hoping we could grab a mug of coffee or tea, maybe share some donuts, and just hang out and chat about reading. 

I have a couple of reasons why I've chosen to do this post today.

1) Criminal Minds  - I will come back to this.

2) Pandemic Reading

3) A question from a workshop I attended.


I'm going to do these backwards because #3 is the most recent. In a workshop I attended, we were asked to write about things we enjoyed from our childhood. Honestly, the first thing I came up with - and the only one I didn't have to think hard about - was READ.

There were other questions, but my first answer to all of them was either a book title or READ.

I've always known reading was a major factor in my life and development, but answering these questions just emphasized for me how dominant a role books and reading have played throughout my life.

Which brings me to #2 - pandemic reading. 

This has been a mixed bag. There have been books that have totally consumed me for days at a time, and then there have been dozens that (through no fault of their own) couldn't wrangle my skittish attention span. But the ones that did capture me - oh they reminded me of why I love books so much. They allowed me to step out of a pandemic-ridden world into a place of magic.

I guess my daughter knew what she was doing when she gave me this mug for Christmas.


So that brings me to Point #1 - Criminal Minds.

I've spent a lot of days this summer with day-long marathons of Criminal Minds playing in the background as I wrote my next suspense novel. I have sort of a love-hate relationship with this show. Years ago, when it was running, I couldn't watch it because frankly I found it terrifying. But I happened to stumble upon the final episode when it aired back in February, and I was captivated by the personal relationships between the characters and the very believable camaraderie.

I discovered my cable station running marathons, and I learned that I could skip the first five minutes with the bloody criminal introduction, and just focus on the profilers - their relationships and their methodology for solving the crimes. Sure I still had to cover my eyes from time to time, but I found myself feeling like I was hanging out with a group of friends.

{For anyone who may not know, Criminal Minds follows the BAU (Behavioral Analysis Unit) of the FBI as they profile unsubs and solve crimes - usually serial killers and always gory. I cover my eyes A LOT.}

Jan and Mary may never forgive me for this comparison, but it reminded me of how I used to feel as a child when I hung out with The Happy Hollisters in their books - me with a group of fictional friends. Hopefully that doesn't sound as pathetic as it sounded to me when I wrote it. 😍

So now, in my roundabout way, I've gotten to the point of this post. Because of my fascination with the characters of Criminal Minds, I read an article about it called "Criminal Minds is ending after 15 years - here's why we're OK with that." There were a lot of of interesting points raised in the article, (and some I disagreed with), but the gist of it was that the world is very different now than it was in 2005 when the show premiered, and that audience tastes have changed. Themes that were popular back then, are not tolerated now. That article really stuck in my head, and I've thought of it often when people talk about likes and dislikes with books or shows.

THAT is what I wanted to talk about today. Have your tastes as readers/viewers changed over the years? If so, is there anything you enjoyed in the past that you wouldn't want to read now? Or vice-versa. Are there topics, themes, locations that you never were interested in before but now want?

And the followup question - what stories would you like to read that you are just not seeing out there?

I know we're talking about books here, but feel free to extend the discussion to your taste in film or TV shows as well.


And if you'd like to talk about your pandemic reading or childhood pleasures, please do. Were books important to you when you were growing up? What role does reading play in your life now?


Let's chat. I'll bring the coffee and donuts.



Image by Skyler H. from Pixabay 


Image by Rudy and Peter Skitterians from Pixabay 


49 comments:

  1. Hey Cate, you ask some great questions. I'll answer the one about what we enjoyed when we were younger, but not so much now. I remember being so eager to jump from children's chapter books to adult novels, so when I was twelve, I started reading Mary Higgins Clark. Carrying them around with me everywhere made me feel grown up, I think, but I also really enjoyed her stories. I tried to read one of her books that I've kept on my bookshelf (unreformed book hoarder here) not long ago, but it just didn't have the same effect. I couldn't get through it. I still think she's brilliant; maybe her writing just takes me back to my teen years, and I don't want to relive that. Unsure, but I am still so grateful to her for her work even if I don't read it anymore.

    I also want to weigh in on what stories I would like to read and don't see out there. It sounds like I'm going backward here, I know, but I would love a fairy tale that is NOT a retelling of one of the classics. My absolute favorite book of all time is The Princess Bride by William Goldman. I guess I would like to experience what I experienced the first time I read that one. One day, I'm going to tackle Stardust, but every review I've ever heard of that one says the movie is better.

    Thanks for making me think about MHC, and I'll be honest—you made me want to watch Criminal Minds. I never have before. :-)

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    1. Rachel, I know what you mean. I go back to books I enjoyed or even books that changed my life, and I can see subtle differences that maybe outdate them to current tastes, or current understanding of craft. But that's the thing about books, we CAN remember the good times.

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    2. Good morning, Rachel. What a great start to our conversation!I have never read The Princess Bride, though my daughters did and loved it. I guess I should add it tot he TBR on your recommendation,

      Warning about CM - it takes either a quick reaction time or a strong stomach. One of my cable stations has been playing it all day on Mondays and Saturdays and back-to-back watchings taught me that the opening montage is not something I can watch. So I leave the room then. It's also fun to watch the story structure become clear when you watch and study - much as we do with books.

      Speaking of books, did anyone else read the Rosamond du Jardin Pam and Penny Howard books? I'd forgotten about them, but a recent FB discussion reminded me of how much I loved them and I searched until I figured out the series.

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    3. Absolutely, Kathy. There are books I loved that make me a bit uncomfortable now, but they reflect the times. I guess it's a good lesson in how things evolve.

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    4. Pam and Penny, yes! I loved them! Oh that Psm, who knew what she was going to pull next. Didn't DuJardin also do Marcy Rhodes and Tobey Heydon, or was that some other author for teenage girls? And what about Anne Emery? And Leona Mattingly weber and her Beany Malone series? Oh I am dating myself but that's okay, I'm too old to date anyone else.

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  2. Good morning, Cate. You bring up some great points here. Readers' interests do change over time, as does their tastes for certain styles of writing (Somehow I think Dickens would be a harder sell today...). It's always good to keep that in mind.

    I have still been busy this year with two non-driving teens at home, but I've listened to a lot of books through Libbly. That's been wonderful. I've discovered a few new authors as well as listened to some I've always enjoyed, mostly in the genre I write.

    Thanks for sharing the donuts. I'll take a gluten-free one. :)

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    1. Jeanne, audible books rock, we use them for trips. And you're still there for your kids, good for you.

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    2. Good morning, Jeanne. Thanks so much for visiting. I loved reading Dickens and all the Russian authors with those massive books, but I seriously doubt I would have the attention span today. It's not the length, but the style as you pointed out. I kind of long for those days when I could lose myself in any prose, no matter how dry.

      Interesting about the audio books. They can't hold my attention either. My mind just wanders. I'm definitely a more visual than auditory learner, so I guess that makes sense.

      You can have the WHOLE platter of donuts. I don't need the temptation!

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    3. Next time I guest-post, I'll bring New Hampshire Apple Cider Doughnuts. Oh heck why wait, I'll bring some Friday. Virtual. No gluten. No calories at all, really.

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    4. Oh man, no wonder you're Merry and bright in New Hampshire.

      My farmer's market sells apple cider donuts. I only let myself buy them in the fall. SO GOOD.
      Thanks for bringing them virtually, Kathy.

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    5. Kathy, I can't wait to try your virtual apple cider donuts. I've never heard of them, but Cate, they definitely sound like a great autumn treat!

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  3. Oh, Cate Cate Cate. Remember the post earlier this week on voice? I started reading this and knew it was you before I knew it was you. Real-life example.
    I could read at 4 and started with the Sunday funnies! I was an only child until college and spent a lot of time alone or with adults, so I took to reading fairly quickly. My favorite childhood books were the Betsy, Tacy and Tib series, an interest I share with Jan. I also enjoyed Trixie Belden, anything by Beverly Cleary, and the Edward Eager "magic" books. Would read away the summer under a huge tree with a bottle of Coke, don't judge me, it was the 50s and we didn't know anything. Always participated in the Scholastic Book Order too. We lived in a suburb of our town so we had the Bookmobile once a week, a high point of the week, and an even higher one was going Downtown To The Big Library.
    Not reading as much in the pandemic. Library barely reopened. Mostly reading friends' books on Kindle so I can review, but not doing a lot of reading for me. That's okay, I don't really have the attention span. Better times are coming...
    Working on edits and promotional material for my next Christmas novella with Pelican, "The Widow's Christmas Miracle." I do love Christmas novellas. They are like Christmas cards to our readers.
    Talk to you soon,
    KB
    Merry and bright in New Hampshire

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    1. I love Christmas novellas too. I've never written one, but I should try. And I read Trixie Belden. I also loved Cherry Ames books. I can still smell those wonderful old books. What a great memory.

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    2. CHERRY AMES! Also Sue Barton, all those nurse boks.
      You should write a novella, especially if you're between other books. Great way to work on skills, plus it goes down really easy because you can't have a complicated plot so you have to focus on the relationship between characters, which is what we should be doing anyway right?

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    3. I actually laughed out loud when I read this, Kathy. I wonder if Erica would recognize this as me.
      I didn't think of this comment to post it Monday, but you reminded me. One of the reasons I started writing for Love Inspired Suspense was because Tina James judged a book of mine in a contest. She gave me first place, but didn't request the book. When I had a chance to talk to her at the conference, she told me the reason was that she loved my voice, but it wasn't a LIS book. She was absolutely right about not LIS because I hadn't been targeting them. It was a 90,000+ word book about a serial killer. It had multiple points of view (including the villain) and lots of other things that didn't match LIS. BUT, her comment about my voice made me decide to try to write for them. Lo and behold, it worked!

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    4. Sue Barton! I was trying to remember that name this morning and couldn't come up with it! Loved those books too!

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    5. You might have stumped me with this one. I don't *think* I read Sue Barton books based on looking at them, but the name sounds so familiar.

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    6. I knew it was you, Cate! :)

      I've never heard Criminal Minds likened to The Happy Hollisters... LOL!

      I loved the Sue Barton and Cherry Ames books! I still do!

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  4. I grew up reading Beverly Cleary, Judy Blume, and Narnia. I started reading early as well, so by the time I was in late elementary school my mother had started me in on Grace Livingston Hill and some other authors whose books were adult, but not too "adult" :) My dad just asked what we were going to do with that stack of old books now that she's gone and I have decided those might be my comfort reads for awhile.

    A lot of my teen years were spent reading a combination of Harlequin teen books from an imprint they used to have (loved getting those books in the mail!) and epic fantasy like David Eddings.

    As far as things I used to really enjoy but don't have the taste for anymore is thrillers like Patricia Cornwell or Dean Koontz. As a young adult I couldn't get enough of them, but I'd rather settle in with a cozy boy-meets-girl or quirky small town like Mitford. I guess the world is a crazy place; those books are too intense and I want to escape. I know there are some important books out there right now, but my sister recently put it perfectly: "I don't want to be a better person right now. I just want to read."

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    1. Your sister is so wise. Anything we can do to get through this, and that includes what we choose to read.

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    2. Glynis, I had a conversation with my daughter a few weeks ago about reading materials and parental supervision. My parents tried to be hyper-vigilant about what I was reading, but eventually my mother gave up because I was reading too much, too fast for her to keep up.

      In my daughter's case, she was a super speed reader, so there was no possible way to read everything in advance. As it turns out, the most risque´ book she read was one her teacher introduced her to in school - Clan of the Cave Bear.

      I understand what you and your sister are talking about. I remember so clearly in the days after 9/11 not wanting to read anything but small town cozy happy romances.

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    3. Beverly Cleary was one of my favorites too, Glynis!

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  5. Hi, Cate! The Happy Hollisters! Speaking of a childhood favorite, I remember reading the adventures of Pam and the rest of the Hollister kids so often along with Trixie Belden and others. It was rather hard to find Happy Hollister books, though, as they'd already gone out of print and could only be found in a school library. And I'll admit. I've never seen an episode of Criminal Minds. I love comedies so I tend to watch more sitcoms.

    One more story really fast. When I was pregnant with my oldest child, I was scrolling through channels when I found this really interesting segment on applesauce right as my husband came home. He sat next to me and we watched it together before we found out I'd turned on Mr. Rogers! True story.

    Thanks for the fun blog about pandemic reading, childhood TV, and reading. It made me smile!

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    1. Hi Tanya! I have such a vivid memory of being stuck at my kitchen table because I had to eat something I didn't want and couldn't leave until I did. I didn't really mind because I had Pete, Pam, Ricky, Holly and Sue for company.

      I am a bit older than you so I got them in the mail each month. Back then libraries (at least mine) didn't carry series books. No Nancy Drew. No Hardy Boys. I was over the moon when I went with my own children and discovered they now did have them.

      I love your Mr. Rogers story. He was the best!

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    2. Good news about the Happy Hollisters, Tanya! Jerry West's family has reprinted all of the books in the series! They're available in softcover or e-book, and they even have a book club, just like back in the 50's and 60's. Just search for the Happy Hollisters online. :-)

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    3. I have never read the Happy Hollisters.

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    4. Sandy, my 3rd grade self is sorry you missed them, but I doubt you'd enjoy them much as an adult if you didn't have that childhood tie.

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  6. Hey, Cate! I don't think my tastes have changed much. I've always kind of had "moods" where I wanted to read one particular type book, or avoid one particular type. I found, though, that I kind of got into a rut, always choosing my top favorite genres (romance, of course). :) So when I joined a book club almost two years ago, with all of us giving input into our book choices, it has ended up exposing me to a lot of different genres. I've been surprised at how much I've enjoyed that! It's been a great experience. I highly recommend stretching ourselves sometimes.

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    1. I do find that I get into reading ruts, Missy. It usually happens when I like an author and then read too many books back to back. Sometimes it's good to change it up a bit.

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  7. Great discussion, Cate!

    #3 - My favorite childhood memories center on reading. Monday was my favorite day of the week because that's when the bookmobile came to our neighborhood! And the thrill when my parents decided I was old enough to ride the bus downtown to the big library...that was the biggest treat of all. Needless to say, I read every book I could get my hands on, including some that were much too old for me. Maybe my parents should have supervised my reading a little more closely...

    #2 - Back before the pandemic panic began, I made a goal of reading through my personal library of children's books this year. I'm not going to make it! I think I have a good five years or so of reading ahead of me, besides my normal reading. :-) That's a wonderful problem to have, isn't it?

    #1 - I enjoyed Criminal Minds for a few seasons, but our television watching time has dropped considerably over the past few years. I tend to watch mystery or history shows rather than crime dramas (we're in the middle of "I, Claudius" and "Poirot" right now.) But for someone who writes suspense, a crime drama is perfect.

    I do watch NCIS when I can - another crime drama. And like you, I tend to watch shows for the writing (plotting, character development, pacing.) The last episode I saw was from season two - the crime was horrific. Truly shattering. But the writers added some humorous scenes involving Dr. Mallard's mother and her corgis that kept the episode from being too disturbing. Quite an interesting study in how to write that kind of story!

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    1. I'm starting to be really jealous that my town didn't have a bookmobile!

      I remember when you set that goal. I was wondering how it was going. But it's good that you get to continue.

      My husband loved "I, Claudius," but I never watched it.

      I enjoy NCIS also. Lately I've been watching NCIS New Orleans. Love the accents.

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  8. My childhood memories are mostly wrapped up in reading! Laura Ingalls Wilder, Walter Farley, Helen Wells, Zane Grey, and so many more.

    I used to watch Criminal Minds all the time, but then I took a break from it, and when I came back, I couldn't get into the stories anymore.

    I really love NCIS, but as I watch the early seasons over again, I realize that there was quite a bit of office place harassment going on that wouldn't be tolerated today. Tony would be fired in a heartbeat!

    I think the stories/books that stand the test of time have less to do with the plot, and more to do with the characterization. Sherlock Holmes, James Bond, MacGyver, they're iconic and evergreen because they were so ground-breaking and unique.

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    1. Erica, that office place interaction is one of the things about Criminal Minds too. They address it head on though.

      And I loved Walter Farley books! My father used to bring them home for me from his school library.

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  9. Fun post, Cate. I have always loved books. Trixie Belden was my favorite growing up and I read more mysteries than anything. I love all types of books now and like to very between contemporary, historical, suspense, mystery, etc. I guess my TV viewing fits that as well.

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    1. I loved Trixie. I wanted to be her.

      People always talk about watching the Hallmark channel, but it's Hallmark's Movies and Mysteries channel that more often catches my attention.

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  10. I guess the stories I used to read in high school that I haven't read in forever would be Zane Grey, believe it or not. I went through a phase senior year where I think I read every single one the library had. Now, I sort of want to go find one and see if I would still enjoy it. I honestly don't know.
    Romance is my genre of choice, but I go through phases. This year, I've read a TON of regency romance, always a favorite. I also love other historical romance and contemporary, too. But over the last few years, I've stretched myself out of my go-to genres by participating in a couple of reading challenges. This summer, I actually read War and Peace for the first time. And I loved it. But it also made me sad because there are so many people who wouldn't be able to read it now due to its length and style. It would be too much for people who want things fast and furious. While I'm stretching and growing myself, I'm also having to remember I can't always write the way I read because it's not the way others read. It's a strange conundrum, right?
    Also, I second Rachel's suggestion of The Princess Bride. It's wonderful.

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    1. I loved War and Peace, Amy. Like Debby said just below, I went through a phase where the longer the book, the more I liked it.

      I haven't read Zane Grey ever. I'd be curious to know if you still liked them.

      I went through a period where all I read was historicals, but now I rarely do. Funny how that happens. I still love a good Regency though.

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    2. Okay, I'm about to navigate over to Amazon and look up this Zane Grey you speak of. Never heard of it. And you're right, so few people are going to pick up War and Peace due to the length, but maybe someone will because you made it through and recommended it. I know I'm impressed!

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    3. Oh, Zane Grey is the author! I thought it was a series. His books look like something I should have encountered at some point in my life, but I just haven't. So funny how that happens. :-)

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    4. Rachel, my favorite Zane Grey stories (and there are a bazillion of them) are The Drift Fence and the Hash Knife Outfit. So good!

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    5. I am so glad I am not the only Zane Grey fan in here. And now I think I need to revisit him. :-)

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  11. Cate, love this post. I've never watched Criminal Minds, but then I rarely watch anything except news and documentaries. Although I'm going to see if I can tune in before it goes off the air.

    I was always a voracious reader and haunted the library weekly for new reads. Of course, Nancy Drew was an all-time favorite early on. I loved the nurse books, horse books, classics, etc. Big sagas were favorites as well, such as Michener's books. The longer, the better in my youth.

    I don't read as much these days...just a couple chapters before I go to sleep. As many have mentioned, I used to enjoy darker reads, but then they became too dark. Like Missy, being part of a book club ensures I read in different genres, which is good.

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    1. I remember totally loving Michener's sagas, Debby. I loved getting wrapped up in the families and history. I would read just about anything if it was long!

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  12. I have been a reader since I first learned that letters connected together made words and then sentences, and then paragraphs, and pages! And oh, the joy of discovering that those pages became books. Some of the books that I read as a young woman no longer hold an appeal for me and I do now choose to primarily read Christian fiction and non-fiction. This doesn't mean that I don't read popular authors who write more mainstream novels but I will.not.read authors who write books with graphic sex, offensive language, suggested child abuse, or unmentionable violence. I don't need to subject my mind to these things because there is more than enough evil in our everyday life!

    I've read several books this year and my TBR list is overwhelming but I will keep reading, Good Lord willin'! I especially love historical fiction and mystery/suspense.
    Blessings to all of you!

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    1. It's great that you remember that, Connie. I don't really remember the first books I read - except for Dick and Jane at school. The first ones I remember loving were The Happy Hollisters.

      MY TBR pile grows so exponentially that I feel like I'll never make a dent in it.

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  13. I used to read a ton of Biographies. Now they rarely catch my interest.
    I wonder why I changed? Hmmmmm

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  14. And as for the Happy Hollisters I read them ALL. They were close to the only books we owned. We were at the library a lot but those books somehow we were subscribed to them and they were like friends.

    I'm feeling a little weepy just thinking of them!

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    1. They absolutely were my friends, Mary. They are my fondest childhood memory.

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  15. And I used to watch CSI and quit for the same reason. The crimes were so gross and graphic, the images would get stuck in my head and it was just NOT WORTH IT

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